9/1/2019 Vermeer 504 L Service Manual
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Ok bought a 504L baler a month ago, had the dealership I bought it at put new Hydraulic lines that run from tractor to the hydraulic block. Well they didnt tighten one down so the other day were gettin her ready and opened the tail gate and was about 3/4 of the way back down and the hose that wasnt tightened down pops off. Luckily it didnt strip the threads, we cleaned it up and put back together but ever since then the tail gate will raise but wont go down.
We have bled it we have checked for trash in line going to tractor, adjusted the valve on the block, nothing is working. Can someone help us out please, any thoughts or advice is welcome. I am betting some one accidentally tripped the gate safety lever while it was up and did not realize it. I never thought about that until Wethay mentioned it. I have had make a lot of extra trips to release the safety lever on my Deere.
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I'll agree, some dummy has done that around my place also. Nothing like getting extra exercise climbing in and out of tractor, then kicking yourself in the a$$. Dang, if my wife had married someone a little sharper (gotta blame someone else, don't ya). And as Tim/south says, hopefully, the solution will be shared for all of our increased knowledge, possibly saving others the pain, with hay waiting to be baled. First, triple check the tailgate lock.
But if the tailgate opens, it is likely not the problem. Remove the few bolts that hold the cover over the valve block.
There is a restrictor valve in the circuit to keep the tail gate from slamming. I think it is labeled RV2 and is on the opposite side of the block from the belt tension adjustment. Put the tractor in float and use an allen wrench to open this valve. After the tailgate is down, remove the valve and check for dirt etc. Evan [email protected].
You are logged in as a guest. ( ) Vermeer 504 SuperI Bale Monitor:: - Message format Posted 3/30/2017 09:51 (#5932523) Subject: Vermeer 504 SuperI Bale Monitor Ontario Canada We have a Vermeer 504 Super I round baler and the monitor is not working. Does anyone know of somewhere that repairs these baler monitors? Posted 3/30/2017 12:52 (#5932877 - in reply to #5932523) Subject: RE: Vermeer 504 SuperI Bale Monitor w. We have same baler.
Our monitor quit too. The monitor we had they said were only used for a short time and the parts were very high, We updated to currant model monitor for about $800. This was about 5 years ago. Just my 2 cents. Posted 3/30/2017 14:45 (#5933125 - in reply to #5932523) Subject: RE: Vermeer 504 SuperI Bale Monitor Iowa Could try Ag Express in DesMoines. Posted 4/5/2017 06:38 (#5945622 - in reply to #5932523) Subject: RE: Vermeer 504 SuperI Bale Monitor Warrenton, NC Your Vermeer dealer can sent it off to Nortech to have it repaired.
Make sure that the monitor is the real problem. The I balers are getting to the age that I am seeing issues with broken wires in the harness and bad switches. Double check the baler before spending money on the monitor. Posted 6/11/2017 20:43 (#6066012 - in reply to #5945622) Subject: RE: Vermeer 504 SuperI Bale Monitor What kind of test procedures can you do to rule out problem is not the monitor and wiring? Have a M series that will not apply net properly. Was working fine except for automatically engagement of net.
Had to push start button to start then it would do it's process. Finished with field then rain set in. Baler was outside in rain for couple weeks. Went to bale hay and can't get net to work properly. Alot of normal features on monitor doesn't work now ie. Only shows Field 1 no field 2 or 3.
Can not get into Diagnostic mode. Bale density is on 20 and tech said it should.6. When net starts feeding it will break or puts excessive wraps on before cutting. Having to constantly retread net. Tech says it is symptoms like baler monitor has electronic issues. Any advice on monitor repair or suggestions tips to keep operating net manually on baler with these problems?
Any idea what a new monitor cost for 504M series? Are refurbished monitors available? Edited by Oldtonew 6/11/2017 22:27 Posted 6/12/2017 06:55 (#6066546 - in reply to #6066012) Subject: RE: Vermeer 504 SuperI Bale Monitor Warrenton, NC To check the wiring I check the wires to see if the have any breaks or shorts with a multimeter. Use the wiring diagram or use the colors/descriptions printed on the wires. It sounds like your twine/net relay got wet. It is the small 1' cube near the gearbox.
It changes the power from the twine actuator to the net actuator. It is known to gives issues when the baler gets wet. Unplug it and dry it out. Also most Vermeer dealers should carry it in stock, it is a common style relay so you can find it at some auto parts stores. New monitors are in the $500 range. It is possible to get rebuilts have your dealer add an 'R' to the end of the part number to see if any are available.
The monitors can also be rebuilt. Some times the contacts on the internal relays get messed up. Posted 6/12/2017 11:07 (#6066856 - in reply to #6066546) Subject: RE: Vermeer 504 SuperI Bale Monitor This is a older 504M I think it's about 11 years old. Baler monitor shows approximately 15400 bales.
Has twine box on front with several hoses and wires running across inside. The relay shouldn't have gotten wet but excessive moisture and humidity can cause problems I'm sure. So a new monitor to work on a 504M can be bought for about $500?
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I have heard you can send monitor off to be reworked, is this a good idea to do it just buy new one? Thanks for your help Posted 6/13/2017 06:27 (#6068217 - in reply to #6066856) Subject: RE: Vermeer 504 SuperI Bale Monitor Warrenton, NC A new monitor for that baler is $550. That monitor works several different balers including current production ones.
Your dealer will need to set it up for your baler. Your monitor can be sent off to be repaired. I believe the repair facility just changed for that monitor, work with your dealer to get it sent in. Posted 6/16/2017 06:01 (#6073692 - in reply to #6066546) Subject: RE: Vermeer 504 SuperI Bale Monitor Net had not been starting automatically as it had last season Would have to push start button to engage net and it worked fine with wrapping and cutting net. Just had to push start everytime. Now it is doing this after it set for a couple weeks in rain. Will faulty relay cause net to engage and break net?
Backed off brake tension till it quit breaking net and now net will engage start wrap and disengage in a continuous cycle not hesitating to make 2-3 wraps while applying break tension? Or Is this a monitor issue or some other wiring/switch/sensor?
Bow thruster function. We have no operator or service manuals with this baler nor any local dealer support. Im sure this baler has capability to apply net and twine all at one time IF it will set correctly with monitor.
Is this a option to consider to keep baling until get done with hay and have more time to try to resolve problem? Edited by Oldtonew 6/16/2017 06:06 Posted 6/16/2017 06:55 (#6073764 - in reply to #6073692) Subject: RE: Vermeer 504 SuperI Bale Monitor Warrenton, NC The first thing I would suggest is to get manuals, they are available free from Vermeer.
Vermeer 504 L Series
Call (800 ) 370-3659 which is the main switch board, tell them you want to request manuals. You will need to provide your full 16 digit serial number.
The baler can only do net or twine at one time, both systems cannot run at once. It sounds to me like some adjustment is not right in the netwrap attachment area, check net routing, that the net pan is up against the belts, the bottom net fingers are tight around the bottom tailgate roller, the net knife area is clean of trash, the large t-handle is tightened down. Bale Density is adjusted with the valve on the baler not the monitor.
Net density controls the number of wraps. Smaller number equals less wraps. 20 would be a lot of net. A typical number is 8 for this setting. The net wrap setting in diagonstic normally is around.6 in the newer machines.
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Yours is old enough that it might need to be different. This is the amount of time that the actuator runs between the start position and the apply position. When in the apply position the shear bar should be 3' to 3.5' above the diving board and the brake should be engaged. I would work with the mechanical adjustment before trying to send the monitor off. Jump to forum:.
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